You know originally I thought that all the "buff mining ehp" threads were by idiots who refuse to tank their hulks.

But I went into EFT and tried to fit a hulk with as much tank as I could but still be able to mine. I gave it shield extender rigs, all hardeners in the mid slots, damage control, and 3 T2 strip miners. The most I could get was 25k EHP.

Three times the price tag of a battleship, half the tank of a shield hurricane.


I say we move mining barges to an armor tank. Give em more CPU and powergrid so they can actually try to fit a tank. Give them way more low slots and fewer mid slots. Now there is a bit of risk vs reward in mining, they could fill their entire rack of low slots with MLUs or they could fit a proper tank.

If you were willing to have a far lower yield you could be far more resistant to ganking. Or you could max out your mining yield and still get taken out by 3 thrashers like an an idiot.

Maybe a lot of folks thought it was some sort of Troll since you are with GSF. It's refreshing to see a Goon ally who isn't foaming at the mouth to be able to torch T2 Exhumers with a noob ship.

I would be fine buffing industrial ships tanks if you were willing to accept a considerable cargo hold / mining yield penalty for being in an NPC corp.

Suicide ganking and war decs are the only two valid tactics for attacking both types of ships in high sec, one is ridiculously easy to avoid. The other is, well, its still pretty easy to avoid.

What some people seem to want is to invalidate both methods of attack, whilst not receiving any penalty themselves. I might even be fine with that, if you are willing to accept high sec being nerfed so far into the ground that the only people to whom it is genuinely worth mining/care bearing there are genuine new players.

Currently high sec is used by risk averse older players who simply wish to avoid actually playing the game at any cost, you wish to take part in building ships yet are not willing to lose them and contribute to demand yourselves. You wish to supply low end minerals and modules for large corporations and alliances, but will not join them or seek their protection in leaving high sec.

Quite simply you are what is wrong with Eve. This kind of mentality is the reason mudflation almost always occurs within care bear friendly games, and you need to start dying more often.

Anyway, HTFU and get used to it, because judging from recent interviews and dev blogs it looks like CCP agree with me.

I love you argument ah ah, absolutely inutile answer